Why allow a child to scream in a book store?
Published on January 20, 2007 By TheSnowbear In Life Journals
Last night a friend and myself met for dinner. Had a great time, the waitress very nice & personable. Attentive was understating it.. kind.. and just great. Was a wonderful feeling. The food was great.. my friend and I laughed, talked and truly unwound after a day of work, and the frustrations of the week.

We decided to go to our local bookstore, one of a chain, and check out the books, etc. Upon entering the store, I heard a child screaming. Now this child was about 3 yrs old. He was upset about something obviously. As I wondered around, the child continued to scream, yell and was becoming very annoying. His mother basically ignorned said child. I did hear her state, "You really shouldn't scream inside." Then she walked away from him to look at DVD"s.

OK. I'm a parent. I've had one daughter. I do realize that there are times that children are not happy about where they are. However, to have a child in a public place, allow the child to totally disrupt the entire store without trying to correct said behavior is WRONG!!!!!

I saw several patrons speak to the employees, and finally, what appeared to be the manager approach the woman. This was about 15 minutes after I had arrived. I could tell the manager dreaded it, but did go up to the woman. What the manager said was not heard, however, the woman's reply was as loud as her child. She basically explained to all who could hear, which was the entire store, she would shop where she pleases, and if he was upset, tough, she had her rights, and if the manager didn't stop "Harrassing " her she would call the police.

I had had enough, I took the book I had picked up and found my friend, we checked out with the 3 yr old still screaming, disrupting, and pulling books off the shelves while she listened to different music selection accross the store.

As we left, the police were pulling up. One office got out and asked if there was a problem in the store. I replied, well, I'm sure you'll hear it the moment you go in.. a 3 yr old does make a lot of noise... He groaned and went in, his partner close behind.

I'm not saying I had the perfect daughter. But, I will say this, I never allowed her to scream inside public places, and disrupt stores that way. She stayed with me, and behaved accordingly, or we left. Simple as that. She could go places with me only if she behaved. We did have discussions occasionally, and a few times warnings, but she quickly realized the best way to go.

People who do not take responsibility for their children actions, when they are this small, should not wonder why as they grow older they do not know how to act in society.

I do realize that some children are more challanging that others. I realize that certain physical or mental conditions may occur that may hamper a child's ability to act in a reasonable manner.

However, to allow a child to behave in the way this one was, and to totally ignore the child was WRONG!

OK, *stepping off soap box* sorry about that..

A nice evening was abruptly shortned due to the selfihness of the mother.

Thanks for stopping by, don't forget to say hi....

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Comments
on Jan 20, 2007
A nice evening was abruptly shortned due to the selfihness of the mother.


totally self absorbed person that does not give a damn about anyone else or even her child *slaps the silly cow*

I hate parents like that I usually say something to the kid and end up in an argument with the parent because of it ....
on Jan 20, 2007
hate parents like that I usually say something to the kid and end up in an argument with the parent because of it ....



I do to, and if my friend had not been there, I probably would have. She wisely stated, let's go.. shut your mouth. I agreed. It would only give the woman cause to be more disruptive. It would have only lowered my self to her level. But, boy would it have been enjoyable.


on Jan 20, 2007
There are times when a mom (or dad!) HAS to get something and can't leave the store (diapers, tampons, and milk all fall under this category, ahhaahaha), so they have to quickly do their business with screaming child in tow.

HOWEVER, what you're describing is a completely different animal. Books are not an urgent necessity, and there's no reason why the woman should not have pulled her screaming toddler out of that book store immediately. She showed a lot of selfishness and lack of consideration for other patrons and the employees of the store (pulling books off the shelf? WTF?).

And who leaves a 3 year old unattended to roam through a store? Ugh!

I don't know what made her think she had the right to shop there and that management couldn't ask her to leave. LOL. Idiot.

I will say this, though, if a child is misbehaving and the parent is there with them, it's much better (and more appropriate) to speak to the PARENT, and not to the child. (Unless of course, the child is separated from the parent and is doing something that will endanger himself or other people...then by all means, say something to him).

BTW, Welcome to JU.
on Jan 20, 2007


I don't know what made her think she had the right to shop there and that management couldn't ask her to leave. . Idiot.


She obviously didn't have the ability to think.... believe me.. there were many who simply left w/out buying anything.. if the book I had found wasn't what I'd been looking for I'd have done the same thing.

There should be a test before becoming parents. But, that's another story...

thanks for stopping by
on Jan 20, 2007
If she had any consideration for other people (and some sense), she should have just put down what she was going to buy (since, like Tex pointed out, didn't seem crucial for her to get), and gotten her and that child out of there.

What boggles me is when some parents only half-heartedly try to discipline a child. I have seen kids running and screaming around stores, while the parent just says something like, "Kids, stop doing that..." and just continues to shop as if nothing is going on.

on Jan 20, 2007
If she had any consideration for other people (and some sense),


Plus, she is wrong (the mother). SHe does not have a right to shop in any store. Store management does have the right to refuse service, as it is a private industry, not a public one.

I am sure when the police told her to leave, she Huffed, yelled "Well, I never!" and "I will never shop here again!". To which the store employees said "Thank god!", under their breath.
on Jan 20, 2007
To which the store employees said "Thank god!", under their breath.


When we were checking out the employees apologized, I simply stated.. It isn't your fault her behavior is what it is. But I'm sure they were glad the police were there to handle the situation.
on Jan 20, 2007
When we were checking out the employees apologized, I simply stated.. It isn't your fault her behavior is what it is. But I'm sure they were glad the police were there to handle the situation.


  

I was behind a lady at the bank like that. When I got my turn, the teller appologized profusely for the delay. I told her "It is not your problem and have a great weekend. And thank you." (it was a friday night). She smiled. And it made me feel good as well to say thank you to her! I felt sorry for her.
on Jan 20, 2007
This happens a lot at restaurants too. It sucks. Unless you are in a chuck e cheese or McDonalds playland it isn't precious when your child is running around screaming and yelling.

I am a parent of 3 boys so I have had times when we had to leave and that is how they learned to behave in public. I hate parents like the one you described. No respect for anyone else.

Woosh, now I am off my box.
oh yeah, and hi!
on Jan 21, 2007
Ooooh, that's not good parenting at all. Perhaps she's gotten so used to the child doing that, but that's no excuse. It seems, from what you described, that is the way she disciplines him, ignoring him and that's the way he seeks attention. So sad!

Unfortunately for me, when I go out with my two youngest, everyone in the store knows us before we leave. I've had to dole out discipline right there and then, when they go out of control and forget their manners! My five year old doesn't act up all the time, but there are times when she tries to go a bit too far with her behaviour and she forgets that her mommy don't play that!LOL!
on Jan 21, 2007
Woosh, now I am off my box. oh yeah, and hi!


hey.. come and step on the box any time.. it helps to clear the air. I agree with you.. Too many parents don't want the responsibility of making children behave. I do know what would have happened if my brother or myself had tried that in public..We probably still wouldn't be sitting down. My parents never beat me or abused me,, but, I respected them, and knew better than to act like that.
on Jan 21, 2007
If I ever get around to having kids...I pray to God that they'll listen to me...I'm not one to get angry quickly, but a screaming child that does not listen wears down my nerves. I'm not exactly sure how to make them stop either...if you're in a public place and spank a kid or something, you're probably going to jail...and we all know that logical explanations will not work with kids who are upset. *sigh*...guess I'll figure it out when I get there.

~Zoo